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Why did people believe Stan Lee?
Patrick Ford
3 August 2016
STEVE DITKO (CREATOR OR CO-CREATOR © S. 2008 Ditko): "Has Stan Lee
accepted the burden of proof? Or has Lee acted on the fallacy of the
argument from authority? Is Lee's position (editor...) supposed to
make true, to automatically prove, that everything he says is true,
because he (an authority) says it?
And have his interviewers been concerned with the facts, or been mere
mindless recording machines?"
STEVE DITKO (CREATOR OR CO-CREATOR © 2008 S. Ditko): "And Lee's
supporters mere bandwagon followers, true believers echoing, repeating
sounds."
STEVE DITKO (LIFTING AND THE LIFTER © 2008 S. Ditko): "One reason
Lee's claims are believed as the truth is because his interviewers act
as mere passive recorders. The accept what is claimed by Lee as the
factual truth."
STEVE DITKO (CREATIVE CREDITING © S. 2008 Ditko): Stan Lee had his
"creative" credit keeping method. Lee's method served to unfairly
upgrade him and downgrade others. It was done simply, easily , by his
choice, by his way of identifying credit words, using false labels."
Dave Rawlins: Ditko is righteous in word and deed, hence "historians"
routinely ignore the bulk of his essays.
Patrick Ford: It's worse than that. "Historians" typically attempt to
paint a picture of Ditko having a problem with Kirby. There is nothing
to suggest this in any of Ditko's essays. Ditko merely says that an
undeveloped idea is not a full creation. I'm sure Kirby would agree
with that. Kirby has only ever claimed that he brought the basic idea
for Spider-Man (name, teenager, orphan, aunt & uncle, wall crawling,
spider powers, web shooting device) to Lee.
Dave Rawlins: Said "historians" had best beware, as they may end up
being fodder for a Ditko essay if he reads their writings.
Patrick Ford: Ditko continuously tries to do the right thing and gets
abused for it.
He answers politely and honestly any letter sent to him. And then fans
mistake his polite honesty ("I don't have time to read your book") and
then publish his letter on FB where people mock and insult him.
How is Ditko honestly saying he does not have time to read a book
someone has sent him rude? People send him a book and ask for his
comments on it and don't realize they are essentially trying to assign
work to him.
Maybe he has books he wants to read? And maybe if he has something to
say that is his decision. So he takes the time to explain and respects
people by telling them the truth, and they say he's rude.
Dave Rawlins: Disgusting, isn't it? Such fans are so thick headed that
they can't fathom that Ditko owes them nothing. Most people of his
stature would send out a form letter or simply ignore fan letters
altogether. And yet Ditko answers with hand written letters. The
behavior of some fans is disgraceful, not to mention ungrateful.
Patrick Ford: Totally agree. In my opinion when a person is honest and
polite with you they have treated you with respect.
Patrick Ford
3 September 2016
Steve Ditko ("The Fantasy Lifters, " 2013):
"Contradictory claims can't both be true. One claim has to be false, a lie, with the relevant implications, consequences, for the deliberate deceiver.
Comic book fans accepting, believing, spreading, Lee's unsupported claim reveals a too willing self-blindness to facts...
Lee's interview version, the published version, became the factually true version of comic book history."
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